• Latest
  • Trending
  • All

Could a Westminster veto of the GRR Bill cause the SNP and Green leaderships to be suddenly radicalised on independence?

December 24, 2022

Burnham’s expected reverse ferret

September 10, 2026

The independence cat is out of the bag

September 10, 2026

Burnham’s crack in the constitutional dam

September 9, 2026

BBC Scotland’s educational F grade

September 8, 2026

The smokiest of smoking guns

September 4, 2026

The BBC’s clutching pearls are in aisle three

September 3, 2026

The branch office’s stagnant talent puddle

September 2, 2026

Keir today, gone tomorrow

September 1, 2026

The Record’s proposed trigger for Indyref2 benefits Labour not Scotland

August 31, 2026

Pros and cons of a defacto indyref, and the SNP conference

August 30, 2026

Meet the new boss, you know the rest

August 27, 2026

Wind turbines and threats to national security

August 25, 2026
  • Home
Monday, September 14, 2026
  • Login
Aye We Can
No Result
View All Result
Aye We Can
No Result
View All Result
Home Comment

Could a Westminster veto of the GRR Bill cause the SNP and Green leaderships to be suddenly radicalised on independence?

by qwertyfan
December 24, 2022
in Comment
0
0
SHARES
0
VIEWS
Share on FacebookShare on Twitter

Leaving aside the fact that GRR is a bad law, the BBC’s reporting of the devolution aspect of it is getting on my nerves. References to how the UK Govt might “step in” as if it’s some sort of God and “block” the legislation. It can’t do that – it can *challenge* the law in court.

— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) December 22, 2022

Almost as soon as I’d posted the above tweet, a couple of people partially corrected me by pointing out that the UK Government also have the option of invoking Section 35 of the Scotland Act, which until now has never been used.  Here is the key part of the text:

“Power to intervene in certain cases. 


(1) If a Bill contains provisions— (a) which the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds to believe would be incompatible with any international obligations or the interests of defence or national security, or
(b) which make modifications of the law as it applies to reserved matters and which the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds to believe would have an adverse effect on the operation of the law as it applies to reserved matters, he may make an order prohibiting the Presiding Officer from submitting the Bill for Royal Assent. 

(2) The order must identify the Bill and the provisions in question and state the reasons for making the order. 

(3) The order may be made at any time during—
(a) the period of four weeks beginning with the passing of the Bill,
(b) any period of four weeks beginning with any approval of the Bill in accordance with standing orders made by virtue of section 36 (5),
(c) if a reference is made in relation to the Bill under section 33, the period of four weeks beginning with the reference being decided or otherwise disposed of by the Supreme Court.”

Surprisingly, then, no discretion at all appears to be given to the Presiding Officer – she seems to be obliged to simply follow the ‘instruction’ given to her by Alister Jack.  This harks back to the controversial “Governor-General” (or more accurately colonial Governor) role given to the Secretary of State for Scotland in the original 1978 devolution legislation that never actually took effect.  Crucially, though, this is still not a God-like power that can be exercised on a whim – it’s potentially open to the courts to make a ruling on whether Jack has interpreted the Scotland Act correctly.  And ultimately whether a devolved law ends up before the courts because of a UK Government challenge, or because of a Scottish Government challenge to a Jack veto, may be a distinction without a difference.  The bottom line is that judges would decide whether the GRR Bill gains Royal Assent.
And if the courts rule against the Scottish Government, as they have a noticeable tendency to do in these cases?  It would either stop or pause a very bad law, to be sure, but I’m a bit disturbed by the number of independence supporters (perhaps I should call them ‘former’ or ‘nominal’ independence supporters by this point) who seem all too keen to achieve their objective of stopping the GRR Bill by such an obviously colonial mechanism.

I actually agree with this. However repugnant the GRR Bill may be, nobody who believes in Scottish self-government can in good conscience want the UK government to interfere. A big part of freedom is the freedom to make your own mistakes.https://t.co/5N5rFDFs84

— James Kelly (@JamesKelly) December 23, 2022

That said, even I can see that there might be a side-benefit to a Westminster veto if that unfortunate event should actually arise.  Many of us worry that the SNP and Green leaderships are somewhat tepid in their support for independence – as if it’s something they believe in as a distant ideal, but aren’t that bothered about in the here and now.  But nobody could accuse them of feeling that way about gender self-ID – the circus of this week has been caused by them apparently regarding it as utterly unthinkable for this calendar year to pass without the GRR Bill being approved by Holyrood.

So how would they react if they discover that gender recognition reform isn’t actually achievable under devolution?  We might suddenly find that independence is an absolute and urgent imperative for them after all – because they’d see it as the only way of getting the GRR Bill onto the statute book.  The only caveat is that they might have the thought at the back of their minds that a Starmer government in 2024 will remove the roadblock – but, there again, if they have sufficient patience to wait for Starmer, why the undue haste we’ve seen thus far?

*  *  *
If you’d like to help Scot Goes Pop continue in some form, donations are welcome HERE.
Email ThisBlogThis!Share to TwitterShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest

Share this:

  • Share on X (Opens in new window) X
  • Share on Facebook (Opens in new window) Facebook

Related

ShareTweet
qwertyfan

qwertyfan

No Result
View All Result

Recent Posts

  • Burnham’s expected reverse ferret
  • The independence cat is out of the bag
  • Burnham’s crack in the constitutional dam
  • BBC Scotland’s educational F grade
  • The smokiest of smoking guns

Recent Comments

    Archives

    • September 2026
    • August 2026
    • July 2026
    • June 2026
    • May 2026
    • November 2025
    • October 2025
    • August 2025
    • July 2025
    • June 2025
    • April 2025
    • March 2025
    • February 2025
    • January 2025
    • December 2024
    • November 2024
    • October 2024
    • September 2024
    • August 2024
    • July 2024
    • June 2024
    • May 2024
    • April 2024
    • March 2024
    • February 2024
    • January 2024
    • December 2023
    • November 2023
    • October 2023
    • September 2023
    • August 2023
    • July 2023
    • June 2023
    • May 2023
    • April 2023
    • March 2023
    • February 2023
    • January 2023
    • December 2022
    • November 2022
    • October 2022
    • September 2022
    • August 2022
    • July 2022
    • June 2022
    • May 2022
    • April 2022
    • March 2022
    • February 2022
    • January 2022
    • December 2021
    • November 2021
    • October 2021
    • September 2021
    • August 2021
    • July 2021
    • June 2021
    • May 2021
    • April 2021
    • March 2021
    • February 2021
    • January 2021
    • December 2020
    • November 2020
    • October 2020
    • September 2020
    • August 2020
    • July 2020
    • June 2020
    • May 2020
    • April 2020
    • March 2020
    • February 2020
    • January 2020
    • December 2019
    • November 2019
    • October 2019
    • September 2019
    • August 2019
    • July 2019
    • June 2019
    • May 2019
    • April 2019
    • March 2019
    • February 2019
    • January 2019
    • December 2018
    • November 2018
    • October 2018
    • September 2018
    • August 2018
    • July 2018
    • June 2018
    • May 2018

    Categories

    • Comment
    • CommonSpace
    • Craig Murray
    • Lesley Riddoch
    • Phantom Power
    • The National
    • Uncategorized
    • Wee Ginger Dug
    • Yes Bikers

    Meta

    • Log in
    • Entries feed
    • Comments feed
    • WordPress.org
    Aye We Can

    Copyright © 2017 JNews.

    Navigate Site

    • About
    • Home
    • Login
    • Logout
    • Members
    • Password Reset
    • User

    Follow Us

    Welcome Back!

    Login to your account below

    Forgotten Password?

    Retrieve your password

    Please enter your username or email address to reset your password.

    Log In
    No Result
    View All Result
    • About
    • Home
    • Login
    • Logout
    • Members
    • Password Reset
    • User

    Copyright © 2017 JNews.

    This website uses cookies. By continuing to use this website you are giving consent to cookies being used. Visit our Privacy and Cookie Policy.